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🗓️ 7 April 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Please enjoy my monologue Thoughts on Bill Dunn with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.
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0:00.0 | Some bad news to report today. |
0:03.0 | Legendary trend following pioneer Bill Dunn passed away this week. |
0:09.0 | About a month short of his 91st birthday. |
0:13.7 | And my way of giving back is to share my experiences with Bill Dunn, |
0:19.7 | which I've shared on this podcast before, but perhaps today, I will think of details that I forgot prior. |
0:27.4 | For me, understanding trend following, the years 1994, 95, and 96 were essential. |
0:35.5 | I first met pioneers in the trading industry, three in particular, Peter |
0:42.8 | Borish, Jerry Parker, John W. Henry. I met them in this 94-95 time period. And I was starting |
0:52.3 | to wrap my arms around trend following, and I had a good feel for |
0:57.0 | things. Obviously, if I had met Jerry Parker by then, I knew about the turtle story. I knew |
1:04.0 | a lot about the turtle story. And with Peter Borish, I now knew about Paul Tudor Jones, as Peter was number two to Paul |
1:12.9 | at his firm. |
1:14.8 | Peter famously featured in the film Trader, which if you have not seen, please see. |
1:21.0 | In a brief meeting with John W. Henry, shortly after he was on the other side of the |
1:26.5 | Bering's Bank trade. So I'm navigating this world. |
1:31.7 | And my father hears me talking about many of these things at some particular time. And I'm living |
1:39.9 | at that time in the Northern Virginia area about 15 miles outside D.C. |
1:46.6 | My father says, well, you should talk to Marty Bergen. |
1:51.3 | Remember, he was your baseball coach when you were 15 or 16. |
1:55.3 | And I said, I don't understand. |
1:58.0 | And he said, well, Marty is involved with a CPA firm, and they do work with this |
2:04.3 | trader. Now, I had no idea who this trader was, but I was told it was Bill Dun of Dunn Capital. |
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