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EP: 134 Ghosts with Dr. Michael Heiser

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Blurry Creatures

Nature, Christianity, Science, Religion & Spirituality

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2022

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

The legendary Dr. Michael Heiser returns to the show for a second time. Heiser is a giant in this space, and is best known for his chart-topping book ‘Unseen Realm’. In just his second interview appearance this year, Dr. Heiser joins us to discuss the biblical view and scriptural understanding of ghosts. What are ghosts? Does God allow us to see our lost loved ones or are they just demonic spirits? We also explore the Rephaim and the delineation between the spirits of the dead and spiritual entities. Dr. Heiser is one of the rare and few theologians to get invited to speak at UFO conferences, he's not afraid to get weird and typically explores topics that make most of his peers and academic colleagues nervous. Join us in prayer also as we continue to ask for his healing and recovery from cancer. Mike has been generous to give us some of his time during a difficult season and for that, we are super grateful. 


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On the one hand, we have a lot of people in churches that are evangelical deists and an oxymoron

0:11.8

here believing skeptics.

0:13.6

And that is, they're very willing to affirm God and eternity and Jesus and the virgin

0:18.6

birth and the resurrection and these things.

0:21.0

But then they want to sort of turn their back on or deny or explain away some of these

0:26.4

other things.

0:28.2

And then folks, you know, news flash and all comes from the same source.

0:31.6

It's called the Bible.

0:32.8

So on what basis are we allowed to affirm one set of things and then deny another set,

0:39.4

comes from the same source.

0:41.4

So I tend to be an academic who objects to that, which gets me in the trouble from time

0:46.2

the time because it makes other academics nervous, it makes Christians nervous to talk

0:51.6

about these things.

0:52.6

But that's what I want to know from you.

0:55.1

That's the question I have for you, if the person out there in the audience who doesn't

0:59.8

want to affirm these things, on what basis do you make this distinction?

1:05.3

On what basis do you say this is real and this is not when both things come from the same

1:09.8

source?

1:10.8

That's what I want to know.

1:26.0

I wouldn't say that that's always a demon.

1:28.0

I would say we're forbidden from engaging in necromancy.

1:31.7

We don't know who we're talking to.

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