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🗓️ 22 May 2023
⏱️ 118 minutes
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Join Sadie and Gavri'el as they discuss the Scopes Monkey Trial, a pivotal moment in American history that affected the right to teach science in public schools. This trial was one of the first worldwide or semi-worldwide mass-media events that was covered in real time.
In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. This episode deals with the topic of evolution, and we will be mentioning some common arguments and key players in the general vein of creation vs evolution, but this episode is almost purely historical, and almost nothing about religious trauma
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0:00.0 | No rolling river of time. |
0:07.0 | You've healed me in too many days. |
0:13.0 | No regrets, no confusion. There'll be no pollution. i'm so thankful i've decided to change my ways |
0:30.0 | welcome back to the leaving eden podcast my name is gabriel hacoen i'm here with my b f f and co-host |
0:37.4 | cult expert cult cult survivor. |
0:40.6 | Sadie Carpenter. How are you doing today, Sadie? |
0:42.6 | I am doing fantastic. I'm in the middle of a really busy weekend, but this topic is so interesting. |
0:50.5 | So I'm really, really happy to get into it. |
0:53.0 | No, I know. We, uh, Sadie has had this topic on the docket for so long. |
1:01.0 | I see what you did there because this is a legal topic. Yeah, I had to, I had to make a little |
1:06.1 | law and order joke. We're talking about the Scopes trial, the Scopes Monkey trial, which I mean, I, maybe I learned |
1:13.6 | about it a little bit when I was in school, but Sadie, clearly with its proximity to fundamentalism, |
1:20.6 | clearly learned about it in much greater detail than I ever did. Yeah, I did learn about this in school. It was a major topic of conversation, |
1:30.5 | but I found a lot of things that were surprising to me doing research for this episode as well. |
1:36.2 | Yeah, so we're talking about the Scopes trial. And do you want to maybe give a little |
1:42.4 | background about what this trial was? |
1:44.3 | Because it's very convoluted and very like also very monumental. |
1:49.6 | Yes. |
1:50.6 | So on the surface, this is a trial about a law in Tennessee that didn't allow evolution to be taught in schools and one teacher who may or may not have taught evolution in a Tennessee public school. |
2:03.6 | But it is so much more than that. This trial was framed as the trial of the century with two great legal minds |
2:14.6 | battling each other on the topic of creation versus evolution. |
2:18.9 | And so obviously this is the kind of thing that, well, if you are in fundamentalism, |
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