Alright, so when Jesus is born in Matthew 2, do you have this star?

And the magi know that this star is here somehow and these magi come from the east,

where they're coming from. I think they're coming from Babylon. Why are they coming from Babylon?

I think it's because that's where Israel was in exile for 70 years and many of them stayed after

that. And this is where Daniel was brought when he was in exile and Daniel knew the prophecies

and he knew how to look at the signs. I mean no culture in history had ever been as good at

understanding the heavens as the Babylonians.

Welcome back to Blurry Creatures, the podcast about creatures. And we talk about

the historical context of creatures, whether it's bigfoot, giants, or modern day sightings,

weird things that don't fit the narrative or the paradigm. But today we're talking to author

Doug Van Dorn, who wrote a book about the giants and that's why we originally brought them on

the show. But since we've become good friends and Doug comes on the show quite a bit and we talk

about all kinds of things. But today we're talking about the signs and the heavens and this one's

kind of a blurry skies. Things that the ancient new, ancient people knew about the signs and the

heavens and stars and such and what does that mean. Typically speaking and why we kind of just stay

away from it because we're all afraid of the topic in general. But we're talking about that this

week. Doug is a good guy and a good friend and we're pumped to have him on the show this week. If

you are just joining us, welcome to the blurry verse. We got Doug to do some funny radio voices at

the end of the episode and you'll hear those. But if you are good with the 80s, you understand that

we're kind of an 80s show. We have like an 80s theme. That's how we use to market our show.

Obviously we're not an 80s show, but we need something to make it fun here on blurry creatures and

this song waiting for a start of fall. Hopefully some of you guys out there know your

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