Ep. 147: (Brain in the Jar Part 1) J. Frank Norris Was A Klansman Who Burned Down His Church For Insurance Money

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True Crime, Cult, History, Survivor, Theology, Exfundie, Religion, Lgbtq, Christianity, Exvangelical, Documentary, Fundamentalism, Baptist, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Deconstruction, Inspirational Women, Duggars, Inspirational

4.5 • 709 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2023

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Summary

We have finally, after 3 years, tracked down the ORIGINAL "Brain In A Jar" story that appeared in both Episode 1 of our podcast, and Episode 57, our primer for new listeners. This story was our holy grail, and after 3 years we have tracked down a firsthand account of this story for confirming/debunking. It originated with a fundamentalist pastor named J. Frank Norris, who in many ways is the genesis of the IFB movement as it exists today. What's more, he had a bizarrely acute influence on Jack Hyles. He also may have been a murderer (???) But we'll get to that next week.

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics.

Additional TW for literally everything, this dude was a bad guy and did a lot of terrible stuff. Imagine if we were talking about a 1920s mobster and you've got the gist of it.

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0:00.0	No, rolling river of time.
0:05.0	You've healed me in too many days.
0:12.0	No regrets, no confusion, there'll be no pollution.
0:20.0	I'm so thankful
0:21.6	I've decided
0:23.4	to change my ways
0:27.1	Welcome back to the Leaving Eden podcast
0:31.3	My name is Gavriel Huckohen
0:33.9	I'm here as always
0:35.4	With cult expert, cult survivor My BFF, Sadie Carpenter.
0:40.6	How are you doing today, Sadie?
0:41.8	I'm doing good. Guess what?
0:43.7	What?
0:44.4	I have a desk, and I have, so this is the first time in years that I'm not recording in a closet.
0:52.4	Wow.
0:52.9	And I also, yeah. Moving up, I also, I also have dual monitors
0:58.8	right now. So I can see our recording in one screen and our document with all of our sources and
1:05.1	everything in the other screen at the same time. That's incredible. You're like, you're living the dream here. So I may be a
1:13.7	little bit echoy today because I am in like a room instead of a closet, but I'll be building up my
1:18.9	soundproofing as time goes on. Yeah. And I'm also in a different place than normal. I am in the same
1:24.4	city as Sadie right now, but I am in a different room and a different house and a different area as city.
1:30.5	I'm back in Portland for a couple weeks.
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