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Leaving Eden Podcast

Ep. 149: Counting the Cost by Jill Duggar Dillard Book Review and Analysis

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True Crime, Cult, History, Survivor, Theology, Exfundie, Religion, Lgbtq, Christianity, Exvangelical, Documentary, Fundamentalism, Baptist, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Deconstruction, Inspirational Women, Duggars, Inspirational

4.5709 Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 159 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we review Jill Duggar Dillard's new book, Counting the Cost, co-authored by her husband Derick Dillard and Craig Borlase.


"For the first time, discover the unedited truth about the Duggars, the traditional Christian family that captivated the nation on TLC’s hit show 19 Kids and Counting. Jill Duggar and her husband Derick are finally ready to share their story, revealing the secrets, manipulation, and intimidation behind the show that remained hidden from their fans."


To us, this book felt honest and relatable. We would recommend that our listeners read this book.


TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics.


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0:00.0

No rolling river of time.

0:07.0

You've healed me in too many days.

0:13.0

No regrets, no confusion.

0:18.0

There'll be no pollution

0:21.6

I'm so thankful

0:23.6

I've decided

0:25.4

to change my ways

0:29.1

Welcome back to the Leaving Eden podcast.

0:32.9

My name is Gavriel Ha Cohen.

0:35.5

Last night, my BFF and co-host, a cult expert, cult survivor, Sadie Carpenter, and I,

0:42.8

we sat down for almost four hours and talked about Jill Dugger Dillard's new book,

0:49.1

Counting the Cost.

0:50.5

This is the second book release from a Dugger family member this year with Jill's book following her sister Ginger Dugger Vuolo's release of becoming free indeed that came out early this year.

1:03.2

These books could not be more different.

1:05.8

If any of you remember from our episode about Ginger's book that we came out this winter, this

1:11.9

spring, we were not all that positive on that book. We found it to be a bit reductive. We found

1:17.9

her pitch to fundamentalism survivors that they should abandon their deconstruction in favor

1:23.5

of what she calls disentanglement. We found that proposition almost insulting. And there was no

1:29.6

real new information about the family. There were no bombshells. There was nothing really. As we

1:35.0

learned from Jill's book, however, the lack of new information from Ginger's book was likely due to

1:41.5

Ginger's signing of a lifetime non-disclosure agreement for an $80,000

1:46.6

payout from her father, Jim Bob Dugger. Jill, however, did not sign a non-disclosure agreement,

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