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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Ep. 175: Outdoor Investigative Journalism: From Lyme Disease to Endangered Species with Jimmy Tobias

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6853 Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2024

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Jimmy Tobias started out working on backcountry trails for the US Forest Service and Montana Conservation Corps. Since then, he has become one of America’s hardest-hitting investigative reporters specializing in public lands, conservation, and the outdoors. Tobias’ story about the link between ecosystem disruption and tick-borne illnesses, “How Lyme Disease Became Unstoppable,” was published in June 2022 in The Nation. That story was the original inspiration for this interview, but Hal and Jimmy range far afield, from ticks to endangered species protection and the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025, which promises to dismantle federal public lands and their management once and for all. Join us.

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So much of this can be fixed. That's what's kept me going on this and like you can have a population of gray wolves on the land. We proved that over and over and the people who hate that whole idea

0:20.0

are always going to be trying to push it back,

0:22.6

but that's a very American thing too.

0:24.6

I try to stick to facts,

0:27.8

and you know, what it really helps with that

0:29.0

is like using documents a lot and document-based reporting

0:31.8

and getting, because when you get like the

0:34.1

internal emails of a bunch of political appointees in the Interior Department talking

0:38.8

with their oil industry friends about you know this or that you know you don't really have to add much for

0:44.6

people to see what's going on sometimes you do need the power of something like

0:48.4

the federal government just to be like no you're not doing that you're not screwing up our incredible like one of a kind

0:57.2

wilderness resource that took years to protect you know.

1:01.6

Hey everybody, Hal hearing, backcountry hunters and anglers podcast and blasts.

1:08.0

Hey, I'm fired up this morning to announce that Savage Arms is going to be sponsoring this

1:14.2

podcast and on it has a special significance to me because I'm sitting here

1:19.7

holding the Savage Arms, Stevens Model 9, Theories M, 20-Gage single barrel shotgun that I got for my ninth

1:30.4

birthday.

1:32.3

I have had that since 1973. It is polished off. It's silvered up. It's scratched.

1:40.8

And I passed it on to my son when he was hen I think that would have been in 2010 and all I've done in all those years is to change the

1:50.8

Replace the ejector on that shotgun change the

1:53.7

shotgun has shot thousands upon thousands of thousands of rounds.

1:59.9

So this whole thing is very important to me.

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