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18 plus until the 14th of April 2024 Bubba University, the podcast. Today the topic is important, unfortunately, apparently it's

becoming more and more obvious that the concern is true. We are talking today

with Dr. Mike Waller. He's senior analysts for strategy at the Center for Security Policy in Washington and President of the Georgetown Research and Dr Mike welcome to the

Rick and Bubba University podcast. It's great to be on campus with you.

Yes, well the professors Rick and Bubba here trying to hand out degrees in common sense.

So the book Big Intel came out in January, the subtitle how the CIA and FBI went from Cold War heroes to deep state

villains. None of us want to believe the subtitle is true, but we sit here and do this show Monday through

Friday, the big show and also the podcast, and when we read the headlines and we see even the things we can see, and I know you're going to inform us there's a lot of things we don't see, but you're informed on,

it seems that this administration has weaponized these agencies.

Yes or no?

Yes.

And it started under Obama and it's really continued non-stop.

Mike, like Rick was saying, you know, being a patriot, being an American, I don't want to think

that the FBI and the CIA are nothing but heroes.

And it disturbs me to see this and hear this.

And I guess it kind of started.

And I was wrong about some of this when the Patriot Act came out.

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