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🗓️ 21 April 2025
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Today’s guest is the mastermind behind some of the most captivating sounds in modern R&B and pop. With an ear for creating melodies that feel as intimate as they do expansive, he’s responsible for shaping hits that make you feel everything from joy to heartbreak. Whether he's behind the boards or penning the perfect lyrics, his ability to blend vulnerability with irresistible hooks has made him a go-to collaborator for some of the biggest names in music. From soulful ballads to undeniable bangers, his tracks are the ones that never leave your head—and always leave you wanting more.
And the producer and songwriter is...Dernst "D'Mile" Emile II!
00:00 - Cold Open: Gaga, Bruno & a Midnight Session
00:28 - Intro: Welcome to And The Writer Is
01:22 - How D’Mile Got His Name
05:10 - Growing Up with Jazz, Gospel & Biggie
10:30 - Producing His First Song at Age 6
12:15 - Almost Signed to Universal at 19
16:45 - Rodney Jerkins & Darkchild Studio Era
21:05 - 9 Creatives in a 3-Bedroom Apartment
25:30 - Inspiration vs. Competition in the Come-Up
27:20 - D’Mile Nearly Quit Music in 2017
34:17 - The Comeback: Lucky Daye & Victoria Monét
38:16 - How Silk Sonic Started from One Song
46:44 - Making “Leave the Door Open”
50:18 - “Die With A Smile” feat. Gaga & Bruno
51:58 - Producing the Artist’s Soul
59:00 - Copy-Paste Industry vs. Timeless Records
01:01:08 - Final Thoughts: Doing It His Way
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0:00.0 | Welcome to And The Writer is. I am your host, Ross Golan. There are millions of singers and thousands of artists, but only 40 songs per genre at a time. |
0:13.0 | This podcast aims to shed a light on those creators who make those songs. I produced this with my friend Joe London in association with mega house music group. |
0:22.7 | Special shout out, Charlotte Isidore, Jad, and Michael White. And you can follow us at |
0:29.1 | And The Writer Is on all your socials. And make sure to share your music with the and the |
0:33.7 | writer is community. We'll see you there. Now, this week's episode. |
0:41.5 | How do you meet Anderson Pack and Bruno Mars? |
0:44.8 | Man. Well, it started with me meeting Bruno. |
0:47.0 | How did it come to be? |
0:48.2 | Next thing I know, James calls me on a Wednesday. |
0:51.1 | It's like, yo, what are you doing on Friday? |
0:52.7 | Bruno wants to meet you. |
0:54.0 | Pull up to meet you. Pull |
0:54.2 | up to the studio. Welcome to and the writer is, I am your host, Ross Golan. Today's super |
1:00.4 | producer is a musical architect who's designed the smashiest hits for some of the biggest |
1:07.4 | voices in the industry. By bridging classic vibes with contemporary soundscapes, he has become one of the biggest voices in the industry. By bridging classic vibes with contemporary soundscapes, |
1:12.6 | he has become one of the most sought-after collaborators in the game. His accolades include |
1:18.6 | an Oscar and an astounding five Grammy Awards and a bunch of other nominations, a humble |
1:24.6 | innovator, a clear visionary, and a true master of his craft. |
1:29.3 | This man always makes his co-writer smile because he's a nice guy. |
1:33.6 | And the writer is my friend, Demile. |
1:36.4 | So is up. |
1:37.9 | How's it going? |
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