Ep 212: Live from CrimeCon UK: Inside Britain’s Most Notorious Prisons with “The Governor” Vanessa Frake-Harris MBE

Crime Analyst

Laura Richards

True Crime

4.9 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Have you ever wondered what life is like in Britain’s most infamous prisons? Vanessa was in the prison service for 27 years and worked her way up to Governor of Security and Operations at Wormwood Scrubs in London. Before that Vanessa worked for 16 years in high-security Holloway prison for women dealing with the likes of Rosemary (Rose) West and Myra Hindley. Join Laura as she interviews to Vanessa about her life as a Governor, psychopaths, the release of 1700 prisoners on September 10 2024 & Vanessa’s advice to William Timpson OBE, Minister of State for Prisons, Probation and Reducing Reoffending. You will hear this interview exactly as it happened! If you want more in-depth engagement, extra episodes and an opportunity to join unique conversations at the Ringleader monthly Happy Hour join the Crime Analyst Squad: www.patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #TheGovernor #VanessaFrakeHarris #RoseWest #MyraHindley #HollowayPrison #WormwoodScrubs #Prison #CrimeCon Clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VegjioGJnKw Sources Vanessa’s Book The Governor: https://www.amazon.com/-/zh_TW/Vanessa-Frake/dp/0008390053 https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/pete-doherty-myra-hindley-wormwood-scrubs-britain-rosemary-west-b1838092.html Thank You to Crime Analyst Sponsors Who Make the Show Possible. Support The Show Thorough the Sponsors: You can get an exclusive 20% off your first order at thrivecausemetics.com/CRIMEANALYST Go to Shopify.com/crimeanalyst to upgrade your selling today. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/CRIMEPOD and get 10% off your first month. REGISTER For Laura’s 2024 Masterclasses: https://shoutout.wix.com/so/0fOy_yFBC?languageTag=en More Training Info: www.dashriskchecklist.com www.thelaurarichards.com YouTube, Socials and Website YouTube @crimeanalyst Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999 Threads @crimeanalyst X @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999 TikTok @crimeanalystpod Website www.crime-analyst.com Leave a Review https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.1	Prisoners who are in who are in the in the headlights who are high up in the media like Rose
0:38.2	West Myra Hindley you know the media makes these people out to be something that they're not they they make them out to be notorious
0:46.8	What was she like Rose West? Rose West was we used to call her Auntie Rose not not to her face, but like have you unlocked Auntie Rose?
0:56.0	Because that's what she looked like. She looked like somebody's auntie. She had thick, you know, milk bottle, bottom glasses on and you know we looked we looked after that was what
1:08.9	our job was but she was nothing special and she's still nothing special.
1:14.0	You came into contact with Myra Hindley as well.
1:17.0	I did. I met Myra briefly, very briefly. I did a transfer to Cook and Wood and she was at Cook and that stage, a very manipulative
1:28.9	prisoner. She manipulated a governor to take her to Regents Park and have an ice cream.
1:34.6	Myra Hindley only did what Myra Hindley wanted to do.
1:38.3	I was only a young officer, only been in the job at like 18 months and this little sort of mousie brown woman with this
1:46.0	minging old cardigan came shuffling along with sort of like the elbows out and
1:51.1	this sort of brown sort of or it might have been a denim skirt.
1:57.0	She said, what can I get you officers and I said, I'll have a cup of tea please two sugars and she went around the three of us that were there and off she shuffled again and you know every when, when you say the word Myra Hindley, people think of the, you know, the infamous picture of her with bleached blonde hair with the piercing eyes, you know staring
2:25.8	straight ahead and she was nothing like that. You wouldn't have known her if you'd
2:29.5	had tripped over.
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