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Wine for Normal People

Ep 238: All About Wine Bottles

Wine for Normal People

Wine for Normal People

Alcohol, Lifestyle, Arts, Education, Food, Wine, Dining, Grapes

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2018

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

After more hairy details on our crazy and delayed move, and a shout out to UNC Business School, our alma mater for helping when things got tough, we discuss the topic: Glass bottles, which are the most common container for finished wine and their evolution is fascinating!

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History

  • Antiquity – long jars/amphora
  • Romans invented blowing glass –maybe used to serve wine
  • 1636 – first time glass bottles in post-Roman Britain
  • 1690 – 1720 a typical bottle looked like an onion!
  • In the 1730s, binning (storage on wine on its side) became popular and that made cork a better closure – kept cork wet and not dried out. The cylindrical shape was popularized!

Glass making and glass size

  • Bottle glass is made by heating together sand harvested from dunes, sodium carbonate, and limestone. If recycled bottles are used, they’re crushed, which hastens the melting process. Furnaces get to 2,700˚F temps to heat glass enough so you can shape it!
  • Size: Larger bottles = slower aging
  • Standard: 750 ml, half/split is 375 ml
  • Magnum: 2 bottles (1.5 L)
  • Jerobaum: 4 bottles (3 L)
  • Rehoboam: 6 bottles (4.5L)
  • Methuselah: 8 bottles (6 L)
  • Salmanazar: 12 bottles (9 L)
  • Balthazar: 16 bottles (12 L)
  • Nebuchadnezzar: 20 bottles (15 L)
  • (I forgot to mention Melchior! 24 bottles)

The Marketing behind bottles…

  • Regions adopt a specific bottle size and shape
  • Thicker glass makes a bottle stronger, which is useful for sparkling, and large-format bottles, but for most wines it’s for perception and the extra cost is passed on to you
  • Shapes:
    • Burgundy bottles – sloping shoulders, long neck
    • Bordeaux – big shoulders
    • Flutes – no punt
    • Champagne bottles – thick because they have to protect 6 atmospheres of pressure
  • Punt: is an inverse indentation. This is important for stability in Champagne bottles, but doesn’t matter for other bottles. A deep punt requires more glass to make, again the cost is passed to us! The flute shape has no punt!

  • We wrap with a discussion of bottle color – from brown, to dark green, to deadleaf to clear, we break it all down!

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Thanks for

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downloading Wine for Normal People Radio.

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It's the podcast for people who like wine,

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but not the snobbery that goes with it.

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I'm Elizabeth Schneider, a certified Silmaier and certified specialist of wine.

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And I'm MC Ice, just a wine-loving normal person. And we are recording in a hotel room once again, late night recording

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in a hotel room once again, late night recording session, totally late

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on releasing the podcast, because we are nomads and we are homeless still.

0:35.2

Welcome to nomads radio.

0:37.1

I am not a nomad though. I have decided that I love travel but I'm not a nomad.

0:41.5

No, you need a home base.

0:43.0

That's what it is, right?

0:44.0

Eley's freaking out.

0:45.0

For those of you, Ellie lovers out there, she's really having a hard time with this, poor doggy.

0:49.0

Yeah, she's very confused.

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She totally is, and the grass doesn't taste the same which really she's basically more

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goat than dogs so we have that going for us. Should we address the Facebook scuff up

1:00.3

Twitter scuff up, or I guess.

1:03.6

You mean international scandal?

1:06.0

I did not make an international scandal.

1:08.0

However, I did tweet that I thought

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that the choices that Wine Spectator made were rather homogenous and it was viewed by some as

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