meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Ep. 247: The Productive Life (w/ Sarah Hart-Unger)

Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Cal Newport

Technology, Self-improvement, Education

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2023

⏱️ 116 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

We talk a lot on this show about how to be more organized and intentional in how you spend your time at work. But what about at home? In this episode, Cal is joined by Sarah Hart-Unger (https://theshubox.com/), a leading thinker on the challenges of staying organized amidst the chaotic busyness that defines family life, to help explore strategies for organizing life outside of work.

Below are the questions covered in today's episode (with their timestamps). Get your questions answered by Cal! Here’s the link: bit.ly/3U3sTvo

Video from today’s episode: youtube.com/calnewportmedia

Today’s Deep Question: How do I adapt professional productivity techniques to my life outside of work? (With Sarah Hart-Unger) [7:16]

To learn more about Sarah, read her blog, or subscribe to her podcasts, visit: https://theshubox.com/

— What system does Cal use to track his life admin? [1:05:55]

— Don’t I need some sort of plan for time outside of work? [1:11:46]

— How do I stay on top of ongoing projects, initiatives, or hobbies? [1:15:36]

— Should I calculate the monetary cost of household tasks? [1:20:20]

Something Interesting: The AI Null Hypothesis [1:33:24]

Thanks to our Sponsors:

huel.com/questions

expressvpn.com/deep

hensonshaving.com/cal

fieldofgreens.com (promo code: Deep)

Thanks to Jesse Miller for production, Jay Kerstens for the intro music, and Mark Miles for mastering.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Well, I'm Kalnu Port and this is Deep Questions, the show about living and working deeply

0:17.5

in an increasingly distracted world.

0:23.3

I'm here in my Deep Work HQ, joined as always by my producer, Jesse.

0:28.7

Jesse, interesting observation from my life, I wanted to point out, as you know, I was

0:34.9

in a busy period in the sense that I had these overlapping kind of major deep work intensive

0:43.0

deadlines that I was switching back and forth between for months it felt like one after

0:48.2

another, always two at a time, all of that's temporarily done.

0:52.2

So like this is great, I don't have a major time demand is now out of my life, it's just

0:59.7

doing the loosens of closing up the semester at Georgetown, getting my final lectures

1:04.7

grading like this type of thing.

1:07.0

What I found this last week of having no major hard things to work on is that the small

1:12.9

stuff just ate up all the time, really, and I was ending days feeling rushed and feeling

1:20.3

like I was not on top of things, which is crazy because objectively, the amount of

1:24.4

available time probably doubled.

1:27.7

And what I realized was going on, it's a pretto principle type of thing.

1:31.7

I was not structuring my days because I was like taking time off, I'd come out of all of

1:35.8

this intense period, like look, I had now it's easy, go to class, just take care of some

1:39.8

things, and without structure, the small stuff just metastasized and took all the time.

1:44.1

You can spend your entire day, well let me go back and forth with this person on email,

1:48.6

let me think about this, and the time just gets eaten up.

1:51.2

So now I've had to return to, wait a second, even when you don't have a lot of do, you

1:55.1

have to structure your time like you do have a lot to do.

...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in -685 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Cal Newport, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Cal Newport and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.