I'm Cal Newport and this is Deep Questions, the show about cultivating a deep life in a distracted world.

So I'm here in my Deep Work HQ joined as always by my producer Jesse. So

Jesse is not a standard episode. We're actually recording this intro right before I leave for London

where I have to do some book-related activities and I'm not going to be back in time to record.

Wasn't going to be back in time to record episode 301.

So we're doing something I think is kind of cool here.

I did an interview earlier in the spring on my friend Jordan Harbinger show the Jordan

Harbinger show which I think is one of the in my opinion one of the best interview

show podcast that's out there Jordan has has been doing this forever. I really think he has some of the biggest

guest in the industry. One of the top interviewers out there. So I asked him, like hey, he me, and I thought it was a good interview,

because he's a very good interview. He's been doing this for a long time. I said, can we take that interview and put it on my feed?

And Jordan was chill about it and said, yeah. So that's what today's episode is going to be.

An interview I did on the Jordan Harbinger did of me on his show, the Jordan Harbinger show, that interview.

So it'll be instead of me talking to someone else about them

it'll be someone else talking to me about me I thought that would be a fun change of pace

so that's what we're doing for this show and then of course next week we will be back with our sort of regularly scheduled content.

So anyways, I'm always a fan of what Jordan does on his show and I think you will be two after you hear this episode.

Hope you enjoy the interview. Coming up next on the Jordan Harbanger show.

It's productivity poison. We just tell ourselves this story that I'm just answering messages, but it is torture and when you think about it you realize that like it's the thing that exhaust us most is a diverse inbox of a bunch of different stuff which by the way this is why if you're doing fewer things everything gets better because you have less things generating email and meetings so the emails you have there's less context

represented here you now have the space to work on one thing for a while I mean it makes all

of the difference it's a light switch difference in both what you're producing, but in just the subjective well-being you experience while working. Like getting fewer things on your plate at once is like the biggest positive change you could make in your knowledge work life.

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most

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