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Ep. 358 The Purpose of Schools with Eve L. Ewing

The Stacks

Traci Thomas

Literature, Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

This week, scholar and author Eve L. Ewing joins us to discuss her new book, Original Sins: The (Mis)education of Black and Native Children and the Construction of American Racism. We examine the differences between schooling and education, the purpose of schools and how their design perpetuates inequality, and how we can change them for the better. Eve also shares how her experience as a middle school teacher has shaped her as a writer.

The Stacks Book Club pick for February is Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov. We will discuss the book on February 26th with Ira Madison III returning as our guest.


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even compared to when we grew up, you walk into the bookstore and you look at the YA section or the

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middle grade section, right? And you just see all of these covers and stories and narratives.

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You know, we could go 12, 13 years in school without seeing any of these type of stories, right?

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And now there are so many teachers, educators, authors, community members that are using all these

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things to try to make young people feel loved,

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celebrated, and empowered in schools. And that is at odds with the ascendancy of authoritarianism

0:28.9

and fascism in our country. Like those two things cannot coexist. Having an educated

0:35.0

citizenry is deeply dangerous to authoritarian regimes.

0:43.8

Welcome to the Stacks, a podcast about books and the people who read them.

0:47.4

I'm your host, Tracy Thomas, and today I am thrilled to welcome to the podcast, Eve L. Ewing. Eve is a writer, scholar, cultural organizer,

0:58.4

and teacher whose work examines race, history, and education in America. Her latest book,

1:04.0

Original Sins, The Miseducation of Black and Native Children, and the Construction of American

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Racism traces the history of the American education system,

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revealing how it was designed to sustain racial inequality and how those injustices persist today.

1:18.1

I have read this book and I absolutely love it. And as you'll hear today, I want to press it

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into the hands of every teacher, parent, administrator, student, and human being who has ever had to deal

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with education here in America. Don't forget, our February Book Club pick is Lolita by

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Vladimir Nabokov. Ira Madison III will be back on Wednesday, February 26th, to discuss

1:41.4

the book with us. Be sure to read along and tune in.

1:48.1

Quick reminder, everything we talk about on each episode of The Stacks can be found in the link in the show notes. If you love this podcast, if you want inside access to it, you must go

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to patreon.com slash the Stacks and join the Stacks pack, which is our incredible community.

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