You're listening to reading glasses, a show about book culture and literary life designed to help you read better. I'm

Brier, and Book Devour, Mallory Omera. And I'm Brea Grant filmmaker and e-reader.

This episode, we're discussing how to convert non-readers to readers or, should you? Should you do it? We'll talk about that. We're recommending

fantasy books that deal with grief and interviewing friend of the show

Jeremy Lambert about his new book The Hollywood Special. At long last, but first, Bria, what are you reading?

I am listening to.

Friend of the show's book, I shouldn't be telling you this,

but I am going to anyway, Chelsea Devantes.

Oh, that's big buzzy book.

It is a buzzy book. So Chelsea Devantes hosts

Celebrity Book Club. She's been on the show multiple times now and we love her and

because she hosts this book club about Celebrity Memoir she was was like, I'm going to write a memoir.

Me, a Celebrity now.

I will write a memoir.

I love that for her.

So far, it's, I've just started it.

There's a lot in the first chapter that's redacted

because she experienced some domestic abuse when

she was younger and she talks a little about that in the most redacted way and now she's in a chapter

talking about her godmother or I think it's her godmother and just

just these very funny stories about her and her life and I just really like that she's very funny

she's very charming but also she's very self-aware of you know what

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