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T's and Cs apply. Hello everyone and welcome back to a new episode of the Takecast.

I know that it's been a while since we've had an episode. A lot has been going on behind

the scenes. My name is Davis-Matic. You guys can find me on Twitter at Davis-Matic. In this episode of the show, I'm joined by Glenn Whale, author of Plurality in Radical Markets, one of my favorite thinkers that exists anywhere in the world right now. I had the great opportunity to pick Glenn's brain about his new book and the future of governance

and collaborative technology and how we all live. We are back to our regularly scheduled

programming. The Tatecast will be out on Wednesdays every week. We have a new podcast host. We are

going to be on the Blue Wire Podcasting Network. I hope that some of you have found the show from the Blue Wire Podcasting Network.

If you like this show, you can get a weekly bonus episode, and you can get this episode

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that you can support the continued creation of more podcasts. Now let's go ahead and get into it.

All right, everyone, very excited to re-welcome into the program, one Mr. Glenn Whale.

It's been, it's been a while for folks with very good memories.

They may remember a book club episode with myself, NFL running back, Patrick Laird, Peter Overzett, and Glenn for his book, Radical Markets, back in 2019.

He is, he has returned to the program to talk about plurality and his new book co-authored with

Ms. Audrey Tang.

Glenn, how are you doing?

And thanks so much for the time.

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