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Friendly Atheist Podcast

Ep. 412 - Interview with Kristin Du Mez, author of "Jesus and John Wayne"

Friendly Atheist Podcast

Friendly Atheist Podcast

Religion & Spirituality, News Commentary, Politics, News

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In this solo episode (Jessica will be back next week), Hemant interviewed Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of the New York Times bestseller "Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation." The book attempts to explain why white evangelicals overwhelmingly supported Donald Trump, despite all the non-Trumpy values they claimed to hold dear before he came along, by looking at the history of evangelical culture. 2:40 Why did you write this book? 5:00 The subtitle of your book is who white evangelicals corrupted a faith and fractured a nation. And I sometimes wonder did they corrupt the faith or did guys like Donald Trump expose the faith for what it's always been? 7:02 Are you cherry picking bad actors, like Mark Driscoll, who exist in every tradition, or do guys like Driscoll fairly represent this strain of conservative Christianity? 10:20 How much blame should we place on moderate Christians who platform these toxic people? 14:38 Is there a good definition of evangelicalism that outsiders would agree with? 18:28 Are your students more receptive to your ideas than your colleagues? 20:35 Are white evangelicals uniquely bad with toxic masculinity or is this just a problem with Americans at large? Or all of humanity? 23:32 Is Jerry Falwell, Jr. making a comeback? 25:25 Is there going to be a backlash to Trumpism that affects evangelicals? 30:06 SPONSOR: HelloFresh! https://www.hellofresh.com/friendlyatheist16 31:19 Is the impending end of Roe v. Wade good or bad for evangelicals on a strategic level? 34:12 Are white evangelicals really hypocrites about Trump considering he kept his anti-abortion promises? 37:55 Is evangelical Christianity a force for good? 40:55 What is your reaction to Girl Defined and other young Christian women who promote Christian patriarchy on YouTube? 42:00 What would you say to a megachurch pastor who comes to you for advice? 46:35 How come Christian stereotypes include both manly patriarchs as well as hipster skinny jean pastors? 49:45 Are you unfairly painting lower and middle class white men in the worst possible light? 52:30 Are white evangelicals really as powerful as you suggest they are? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is Hemant Mata for the Friendly Atheist Podcast.

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Jessica is out this week, so it's just me, but I have an interview you're going to really,

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Kristen Cobis-Dume is a professor of history in gender studies at Calvin University.

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He holds a PhD from the University of Notre Dame and a research focuses on the intersection

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