For those people who don't believe that the agrarians and the insectulants actually exist,

that's a whole deep dive, that's a big study. And if you do it correctly, you will come out the

other end absolutely convinced that they do, because the information, the data is conclusive.

And most of that data pertains to the abduction phenomena. It is absolutely scientifically

conclusive that these things do exist, they are physical, the phenomenon is physical.

Last time we had Tim Alberino on the show we talked about, hey, let's come back and do aliens proper.

So, figured, let's get Tim back on it's a good time. We've been hot and heavy on the show Luke,

so let's just keep blasting people. Hot and heavy. It's like something like grandma used to say.

Like, are you guys hot and heavy? Did you guys go park? Were you naked? Grandma? Those are personal

questions. Yeah, Luke, you were a wild man in high school. Not really, but I'd appreciate the

vote of confidence. Luke, hot and heavy. Rogers? Hot and heavy. We haven't heavy on this podcast though.

I don't know lately it's been wearing on me a little bit mentally. Luke, I don't know if he had

has it Nate. Expand up on that for us. I mean, you hear this stuff over and over again and people

send us links and I try to, I feel like the show is growing and I feel like I got to know the content

more and more, but there's only so much doom and gloom you can handle before you just start to go,

dude, I gotta live my life too, right? Like, I can't live there. I don't know. I'm not good at

bouncing that. Well, it's about, I mean fear, I fear wise, I get that. Like, we don't want,

you don't want to live in fear. You don't know how many times the Bible says fear not and I think it's

important that we listen to that, right? And I think that in asking for the truth, you uncover a lot

of the deception and a lot of that gnarly stuff out there and that's where we end up trekking

in some ways. But I think the flip side of that coin is we sort of got, there's in the business

of redemption and hope, you know, sometimes it's good to just put your head there and park it there

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