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Soul traders or limited company directors in the UK can apply. And now from the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago and CNN

Audio, the Axxwiles. With your host, David Axelrod. the Axe Last week I sat down for a public conversation with the university's celebrated President Michael

Crow.

His personal journey from childhood loss and struggle to the peak of higher education is inspiring.

But equally inspiring is the story Crow has written over the past two decades at ASU, where he's

built a widely heralded model for the New American public university.

It stresses both broad inclusivity and admissions

and excellence, innovative approaches to teaching

and learning in the 21st century,

and a deep investment in solving problems facing Arizona

and the wider world.

Here's that conversation.

President Crow it I am so happy to see you and grateful for your time this is an

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