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Audio, the Axxwiles. With your host David Axelrod.

One of the joys of doing this podcast for the past nine years has been the chance to meet and introduce you to interesting inspiring people we may not have known. I'd heard about Cyrus Habib a few years ago.

He was the up-and-coming lieutenant governor of Washington. An Iranian American who lost his sight

to a rare cancer as a child, Habib was a brilliant productive office

holder, the next Obama folks would tell me.

And then, disillusioned with the celebrity aspects of politics, he dropped out to join the Jesuits and put himself on a decade

long path to ordination. I sat down with Cyrus Habib recently about that head-turning decision

in his life today.

It's a conversation I think you should hear.

Cyrus Habib, it's, I've been so looking forward to this conversation.

I remember you from another life when you were being heralded as the next Barack Obama and the next big thing in politics and now you're on a

completely different course which we will get to but such a pleasure to see you

thank you likewise and President to see you. Thank you, likewise.

And President Obama did play such an inspirational role for me, which we'll discuss.

And so it's an honor to, well it's an honor to have met him briefly in politics, but a real pleasure to be able to get to know you and now to be able to sit down and talk about things.

I remember when he endorsed you. know you and now to be able to sit down and talk about things.

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