And now from the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago and CNN audio,

The Axxwiles.

With your host, David Axelrod. CNN Audio, The Axe Wiles.

With your host, David Axelrod.

During his more than half a century of public service,

Leon Panetta has had more titles than the King of England. 16 years in Congress where he rose to become

chair of the House Budget Committee, Federal Budget Director and White House Chief of Staff

under President Bill Clinton,

Director of the CIA and later Secretary of Defense under President Barack Obama.

Son of Italian immigrants, Panetta has not only been a witness to history during his long and distinguished

career, he's helped write it.

I sat down with him last week to glean some of that wisdom at the Panetta Institute

in Monterrey, California, the program he and his wife Sylvia founded Pined

in Monterrey, California, the program he and his wife Sylvia

founded to inspire a new generation of leadership.

Here's that conversation.

Secretary Pineda. Secretary Panetta, it's great to see you.

Good to be with you, David.

And especially in Monare.

You are like the civic treasure here in Monre.

You basically, other than your time in Washington, you spent your whole life here.

Born and raised, son of immigrants, Italian immigrants, who, thank God, managed to make their way to Monterrey,

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