And now from the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago and CNN audio,

The Axxwiles.

With your host, David Axelrod. CNN Audio, The Axe Wiles.

With your host, David Axelrod.

Audie Cornish has made her name telling other people's stories at NPR,

and now is the host of the assignment podcast on CNN audio but her own story is a

great one as well the child of Jamaican immigrants she grew up in two worlds in

the Boston suburbs spurring a curiosity interest and drive that is in the this week to explore her story and her cut on the emergence of Kamla Harris in this extraordinary political

moment.

Here's that conversation.

Audie Cornish, it is a pleasure to see you my friend.

It is good to see you too.

We are like ships in the night.

You're in Washington, I'm in New York sometimes, and we never get to chat, so I thought, what better place than on the Axe Files?

Well, as a listener to the Axe Files prior to coming to CNN. I'm excited. Yeah, well, you're a good story. So I wanted to, I just wanted to talk to you about how you got to be Audie Cornish, and I don't mean how you got named Audie Cornish and I don't mean how you got named

or a Cornish but how you get to become

Audie Cornish but yours is a you know you have an interesting story

because it's not just the story of a striving journalist it's

not just the story of a black journalist in America it's also the story an

immigrant story. Yeah you're good at this.

You should be in politics.

Have you ever thought you could help build narratives for campaigns?

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