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Very Scary People

Ep.6: Off The Grid

Very Scary People

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History, Tv & Film, True Crime

4.63.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

With David and Lenore’s release from prison, the Matusiewicz family is officially reunited in Texas. While their deep-rooted disdain for the government continues to grow deeper, a sinister new plan is hatched to get the girls back…this time for good.

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0:00.0

In 2009, three days before Halloween, a grisly crime stunned the seaport town of Anacortis, Washington.

0:08.0

Mark was known as the dog whisper of Anacortis.

0:11.1

They soon discovered a story tangled in obsession.

0:15.4

Who was the hunter and who was the hunted?

0:18.3

Follow and listen to Train to Kill, the Dog Trainer, the heiress, and the bodyguard on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:33.1

This is a story that involves stalking, psychological torture, alleged sexual abuse, kidnapping, and murder.

0:41.3

Listener discretion is advised.

0:45.3

With all of them together in Texas, the plot thickens.

0:51.3

They're an insular little group. They took an imaginary prime,

0:58.0

and they let it fester and mushroom in their own minds.

1:02.0

They feed into each other's delusions.

1:05.0

They can create a situation where they have ultimate control.

1:10.0

This is an anti-government group.

1:12.9

It does not recognize the authority of the government.

1:16.7

It was like they were preparing for Armageddon.

1:23.6

September 5th, 2012 is the day Christine Belford had been dreading every minute since the girls were rescued.

1:32.4

The day she prayed would never come.

1:35.4

David Matusowitz has just been released from federal custody.

1:40.5

For the past three years, he was able to dismantle Christine's entire life from behind bars.

1:47.7

He and his mother, Lenore, have been at the helm of the stalking, the harassment,

1:53.1

in the incredibly damaging smear campaign that tried to pain Christine as an unfit mother,

1:59.0

a threat to her own children, and now he is back on the street.

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