Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your guide to the White Tail Woods, presented by First Light, creating proven, versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle, or blind. First Light, go farther, stay longer. And now, your host, Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast.

This week on the show, I'm joined by Ryan Callahan to get a quick level set on where

things stand regarding threats to public lands in early 2025 and a larger discussion

around the best strategies that we can employ to protect those lands now and into the future,

whether you are listening to this in 2025, 2030, or 30 more years down the road.

All right, welcome back to the Wired to Hunt podcast brought to you by First Light.

And to start today, I want you to close your eyes.

Now, if you're driving, don't do that, please.

But assuming you are in a safe place, close your eyes.

Bear with me here.

And imagine a piece of public land.

A piece of public land that has been special to you.

A favorite place, a cherished place, somewhere that has lingered long into your memory

because of a fishing trip or a hunting trip or an incredible wildlife encounter or an experience

you shared with your son or your daughter or your mom or your dad.

Think about this place, the first place that comes to your mind or your mom or your dad. Think about this place.

The first place that comes to your mind like that.

And picture it.

Imagine what it looks like.

Imagine what it sounds like.

The wind through the trees.

The river flowing through the rocks.

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