It's hardcore history.

I imagine given the subject matter that I talk about on this program that there are

quite a few people in the audience that have played strategy and tactic war gaming type

games on their computer or video console or what have you over the years.

That's a subject that interests you, going to have an interview on this program where

we talk to one of the founders of a company who makes the most up to date modern types of

games with a historical theme and all that.

I found by having the conversation with him that a lot of the same sorts of decisions

and trade-offs and questions and quandaries came up in their development meetings that

we had in the development meetings for war remains, the virtual reality project I worked

on.

That's at the World War I Museum in Kansas City by the way, if you want to see that.

If you like that kind of stuff, a fascinating interview with Maximilian Ria, whose game

is Hell Let Loose, and it's a fascinating concept.

We'll talk to him a little bit later.

It was, if there is a Ben, Ben's idea that we talk about, we set up the context to that

with a little personal stuff which I don't like to do.

I told Ben, I said, who cares, it's not very interesting.

Me talking about my life and Ben said, well, it's not very interesting.

Whose fault is that?

That's a hard one to have a pithy comeback for.

But the reason he brought it up is he said, you talk about war games in the program all

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