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🗓️ 11 February 2023
⏱️ 267 minutes
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In Episode 97 of CEREBRO, Connor and Dr. Steven Attewell, (Adjunct Professor of Public Policy at CUNY, writer of Race for the Iron Throne) get down to business with the unscrupulous Sebastian Shaw! Created by Chris Claremont and John Byrne, billionaire industrialist Shaw is best known as the Black King of the Hellfire Club, a political player who for many years concealed his own mutant status while manipulating the mutant struggle for profit. He now serves as part of the Quiet Council on Krakoa, working in tandem with the heroes he fought for so many years.
The CEREBRO character file on the Black King begins at 1:37:33.
(Content Advisory: Sebastian's story includes domestic violence, sexual violence, extreme misogyny, classism, and brainwashing.)
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0:00.0 | Anyway, Shaw is stealing the brig in Necrotia, where it is revealed in a retcon that he murdered Shinobi off panel at some point, because no one has bothered to use Shinobi for years. |
0:11.0 | He was like, you know, he's like, do list. He was like, take out the laundry, kill my son. |
0:16.9 | X-Men, X-Men. In the 21st century, people mutants led by Magneto aimed to destroy the world. |
0:28.9 | The only hope is X-Men. |
0:35.1 | Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast, where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of homo superior. |
0:42.2 | I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith. |
0:44.2 | And with me today is Dr. Stephen Adewel, adjunct professor of public policy at the City University of New York, |
0:50.5 | also known for his series Race to the Iron Throne, an academic deep dive analysis of |
0:56.2 | A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. Martin, which more recently was collected into a paperback, |
1:01.8 | I'm pretty sure. Yeah, a couple. Like, you've done a couple of them at this point, right? Up through |
1:06.6 | Clash of Kings, maybe? Yes, I need to find a new publisher for Storm of Swords, because that one's |
1:12.5 | going to be massive. Well, yeah, I mean, notably in the UK, I mean, I'm sure you know this, |
1:17.7 | but for the listeners, they had to publish Storm of Swords as two books because the UK market |
1:22.1 | refused to do the big doorstopper. I have not read your work on a song of ice and fire in part because |
1:30.1 | I found out about it more recently and I'm planning when winds of winter drops and it will. |
1:38.0 | I have faith. Eventually, yes. I mean, I like, I've said this on the podcast before. He could not |
1:42.8 | pick me out of a lineup with a gun to his head, |
1:45.0 | but I've met George R. Martin a bunch of times through work. He is a great guy, incredibly generous |
1:51.0 | with his time and with other creators and writers. I believe him when he says it's coming. I do. |
1:58.2 | I think people should just have a little patience and a little faith. |
2:01.0 | I realize it's been a minute, but we waited a long, long time for Dance with Dragons, too. |
2:05.3 | That is very true. And frankly, I'd rather wait longer and have the book be better personally than |
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