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Episode 105: Wandering in the Wilderness with Angela Roskop Erisman

Data Over Dogma

Data Over Dogma Media, LLC

Society & Culture, History

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Anybody want to take a long walk in the desert? Well, this week we've brought in Angela Roskop Erisman to guide us through the wilderness! In her new book, The Wilderness Narratives: Religion, Politics, and Biblical Interpretation, Dr Erisman discusses the exodus as you may not have heard it discussed before. Far from being the actual writings of a literal Moses, Dr Erisman uses genre analysis to propose a far more allegorical explanation for the story. Could it be that the beloved tale of Israel escaping their Egyptian captors was actually written or compiled as a means of serving far more political ends? Find Dr Erisman's book here: https://angelaroskoperisman.com/the-wilderness-narratives-in-the-hebrew-bible-religion-politics-and-biblical-interpretation/ ---- HEY! TICKETS FOR THE FIRST *AND SECOND* LEG OF THE DATA OVER DOGMA TOUR ARE ON SALE! To get yours, go here: First leg (Chicago, Seattle, Portland, LA): https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-grand-data-over-dogma-book-launch-tour/ Second leg (Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, DC): https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-grand-data-over-dogma-book-launch-part-2/ For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma      Follow us on the various social media places: https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma Have you pre-ordered Dan McClellan's upcoming book The Bible Says So yet??? https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/bible-says-so-9781250347466/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGLTkpleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHQY4Ahs0Hi289IcnsQMh_0OAVf3oGefyUsWkLjhfB8OF8nio1fmroJbXxA_aem_v_4sISp8Zt43zsKfDjx1aA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The reason that we look for an Exodus and a Moses in the late Bronze Age is because we understand this story as history writing.

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But once we understand that, oh, this started at least its life as fictional biography,

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that is political allegory, suddenly the whole world can look different.

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Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

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And I'm Dan Beecher.

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And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion.

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