Welcome to the Cannabis Cautilance Podcast. I'm your host, Tad Hussey of Kiss Organics.

This is the podcast where we discuss the cutting edge of growing from a science-based perspective

and drawn top experts from around the industry to share their wisdom and knowledge.

My guest this week is my good friend, Suzanne Wainwright Evans, also known by many as the Bug Lady.

She's an ornamental entomologist

specializing in integrated pest management. Suzanne has been involved in the green industry

for more than 25 years with a primary focus on biological controls and using pesticides

properly. She is a graduate of the University of Florida with degrees in both entomology

and environmental horticulture. Suzanne has been on the podcast

multiple times, and I highly suggest folks go back and listen to some of her other podcasts if you

haven't already. This podcast, though, is a two-part series where we discuss some of the latest

research in cannabis and hemp from a recent invite-only conference she attended, one of the biggest

topics being viruses and cannabis. Now on to the show.

But one thing I want to mention for growers is like guardian, getting back to Guardian might spray,

because these products aren't really regulated, we never, people growers were using it thinking it was

organic, not realizing they were spraying spraying was it abimectin

or ivermectin yeah basically avid abmectin it's also known as minx too was in there so there was

avid mixed in and we didn't know it they were sending out samples to everyone so so many people

contaminated their grows with with avid without even realizing it. But, you know, the product obviously

worked really, really well. And so you're just trusting this company's word until someone does

independent testing. And it wasn't until a grower in Oregon failed an organic grower for having

avid on their crop. And they're like, there's no way.

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