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Episode 107: Immigrant Apocalypse with Yii-Jan Lin

Data Over Dogma

Data Over Dogma Media, LLC

Society & Culture, History

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The way many people talk about immigration in the United States, you'd assume that it was an apocalyptic event. And actually, many of the most extreme voices in our society are literally saying as much. But this is not the first time American immigration has been linked to Biblical apocalypse. This week, we're bringing in Dr. Yii-Jan Lin, whose new book Immigration and Apocalypse: How the Book of Revelation Shaped American Immigration chronicles the many twists and turns of the eschatological mindset from Columbus straight through to the present. Did the first immigrants (the Europeans) think of their own journey as hastening the end times? How did that story change as time passed and they started to think of themselves as the "natives" of the land? What happened when other, non-European, non-Christians started landing on American shores? Find Dr Lin's book here: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300253184/immigration-and-apocalypse/ ---- HEY! TICKETS FOR THE FIRST *AND SECOND* LEG OF THE DATA OVER DOGMA TOUR ARE ON SALE! To get yours, go here: First leg (Chicago, Seattle, Portland, LA): https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-grand-data-over-dogma-book-launch-tour/ Second leg (Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, DC): https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-grand-data-over-dogma-book-launch-part-2/ For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma      Follow us on the various social media places: https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma Have you pre-ordered Dan McClellan's upcoming book The Bible Says So yet??? https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/bible-says-so-9781250347466/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGLTkpleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHQY4Ahs0Hi289IcnsQMh_0OAVf3oGefyUsWkLjhfB8OF8nio1fmroJbXxA_aem_v_4sISp8Zt43zsKfDjx1aA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thinking about us hurtling towards climate disaster, right?

0:04.7

Or the end of the economic world as we know it, the rise of populism.

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You know, is there a sense of like, well, it's foretold, you know, like a sense of teleology

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in which all these catastrophic terrible things are just part of the plan.

0:19.1

That really disturbs me to think that that kind of thinking can be entrenched and think, well, a new world is coming. Well, great, but what a bit doesn't? You know, and this is what we're stuck with.

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Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan. And I'm Dan Beecher. And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast where we increase

0:39.1

public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and combat the spread of misinformation

0:44.3

about the same. How are things today, Dan? Oh, things are great, man. I'm thinking about the tour that's

0:49.7

coming up. Data Over Dogma, we're going, we're hitting the road pretty soon. So if you're in any of the

0:56.1

cities that I'm about to name, go into the show notes and click on the link to either the first

1:02.7

leg or the second leg and get your tickets now because we really want to meet you. We're going to be

1:08.3

in Chicago, then Seattle, then Portland, then Los Angeles,

1:12.1

and then we're going to wait a couple weeks, and then we're back out on the road in Dallas and

1:18.1

Atlanta and Philadelphia and then Washington, D.C. And we'd really love to see you guys. So please,

1:26.8

if you're even considering it, buy a ticket,

1:30.0

that would be great. Yeah, it would help us out a lot. And today we have a wonderful episode for you,

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as far as we know. We don't plan out too much. You know, the scripts stay pretty light, pretty loose.

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But we have, Dr. Yijan Lin is joining us today.

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Welcome to the show.

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Dr. Lynn, thank you so much for being here.

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Thanks for having me.

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Really looking forward to this.

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