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🗓️ 18 September 2024
⏱️ 299 minutes
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In Episode 114 of CEREBRO, Connor and returning fan favorite guest Spencer Ackerman live the life aquatic with Namor McKenzie, the studly Sub-Mariner! Created by Bill Everett in 1939, Namor is among Marvel's earliest characters, one of only a handful to be carried over from predecessor imprint Timely Comics. Arguably the first antihero in the superhero genre, the Sub-Mariner was reimagined in the Silver Age as a sometime foe of the Fantastic Four, a romantic complication for leading lady Sue Storm. In the 21st century, after many years of stories technically designating him as a mutant, Namor finally spent a stretch of time in the X-Men franchise in work by Matt Fraction and Kieron Gillen.
The result here is a strange, undersea adventure for which Connor is not entirely prepared.
First, though, a little chat about Spencer's new gig as the incoming writer of Iron Man!
The CEREBRO character file on the Sub-Mariner begins at 1:15:06.
(Content Advisory: Namor's story includes racism, colonialism, genocide, and sexual violence.)
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0:00.0 | It might make the world a better place if more people had a Namor who would just dip in and offer to spirit them away to be a sea bride every four issues. |
0:10.1 | X-Men, X-Men. |
0:13.3 | In the 21st century, people mutants led by Magneto aim to destroy the world. |
0:21.6 | Only hope is X-Men. |
0:26.6 | Welcome to C. Rebro, a Namor podcast where a hetero and his homo friend dig deep into the history of Marvel's first homo superior. I'm your guest host, Spencer |
0:40.9 | Ackerman, and with me as always is. Connor Goldsmith, hello everybody. How are you doing? We decided to do |
0:48.6 | things a little differently this week because, well, to be honest, I've never been less prepared for an episode of this show. |
0:57.1 | Spencer has been on me to do a Namor episode for years now. It's much like Luke Ruddick's heroic effort to get me to do the Quicksilver episode, which did eventually bear fruit. |
1:06.7 | Here, it's going to be a funny one because I kept saying, like, well, we'll just focus on Namor's |
1:12.3 | X-Men stuff. But the thing is, guys, Namor doesn't have very much X-Men stuff. So I'm mostly |
1:17.1 | going to let Spencer drive because I don't know what any of these people are. I am learning about |
1:23.3 | characters I had never heard of before this week. You know, I'm, I'm fascinated by Namor's |
1:30.5 | marriage to Dorma, but she was replaced by Lira and then... She was never, in fact, Dorma. |
1:37.0 | Right, but Dorma was, but the marriage to Dorma was legal because they had said the vow of |
1:42.6 | Poseidon or whatever in front of each other and not |
1:45.5 | with Lear. It doesn't matter. The point is I learned about Dr. Lemuel Dorcas, a character I did not know |
1:50.6 | existed, uh, and, and how he relates to the orca and the tiger shark and all kinds of other |
1:56.8 | characters that I simply, uh, had not a single idea about. So this is going to be a fun one |
2:04.0 | because I like Namor's vibes, but I don't know very much about, to be honest, most of his |
2:09.1 | publication history. I am vaguely familiar with his early Fantastic Four stuff. And then I am |
2:15.0 | familiar with when he was just around in the 90s being like a big |
2:19.4 | Marvel character who was around because of the John Byrne and then Jay Lee and all of that stuff. |
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