Episode 118: Lilandra Neramani (feat. Josh Trujillo)

CEREBRO

Connor Goldsmith

Science Fiction, Arts, Books, Visual Arts, Fiction

4.8 • 815 Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 340 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 118 of CEREBRO, Connor and Marvel/DC writer Josh Trujillo (What If? Gambit, Blue Beetle, Wiccan and Hulkling) play a game of thrones with the liberal Lilandra Neramani, Majestrix Shi'ar! Created by Chris Claremont and Dave Cockrum as the primary love interest for Charles Xavier, alien princess (and sometime empress) Lilandra became a major player in intergalactic politics and a frequent friend — but sometimes foe — of the X-Men. Her assassination in the 2009 cosmic event War of Kings was a devastating blow to social progress in the Shi'ar Imperium, but in recent years her daughter by Charles, Xandra, has taken the throne and worked to finally realize the reforms her mother championed.

The CEREBRO character file on Lilandra begins at 51:27.

(Content Advisory: Lilandra is the ruler of an imperial state built on conquest and slavery. She tries to improve things from within, but there's a lot of rough stuff in here. This episode also discusses current events in America and — without going into detail — the sexual misconduct allegations against Neil Gaiman.)

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0:00.0	That's in 125.
0:01.7	He's like, I got to go back and see what's up with Gene.
0:06.4	And she's like, I trust you to handle that.
0:10.3	Ten issues later.
0:14.5	Literally the next second we check in on her.
0:17.0	Ten issues later, Gene has become Dark Phoenix and consumed the DeBari Star System.
0:23.6	X-Men, X-Men.
0:26.7	In the 21st century, evil mutants led by Magneto aimed to destroy the world.
0:35.6	The only hope is X-Men.
0:41.8	Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast, where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of Homo Superior.
0:48.8	I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith, and with me today for the first Cerebro of 2025 is returning guest Josh Trujillo,
0:58.7	recently the writer of Blue Beetle at DC Comics, and this month the writer of What If Gambit?
1:05.6	What If Gambit became the What If Galactus transformed?
1:09.4	It's that one. I've been calling it What If Gambit?
1:11.6	That's fine.
1:11.9	I think that that's...
1:12.8	I don't think there are any other what if specifically about...
1:15.3	Yeah, I don't think...
1:16.2	Like, you know, I mean, the What If Magic became Sorcerer Supreme is just called What If Magic, right?
1:20.3	Like, we just sometimes call them by short... Gambit that Josh did, which is your first X-Men story, which is fun.
1:33.3	Part of a series that editor of Martin Biro did where four different characters, five.
1:34.1	I think it's four.
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