Welcome to the Cannabis Cautilance Podcast. I'm your host, Tad Hussey of KISSorganics.

This is the podcast where we discuss the cutting edge of growing from a science-based perspective

and drawn top experts from around the industry to share their wisdom and knowledge.

This is part two of my recent interview with my good friend Suzanne Wainwright Evans,

also known by many as

The Bug Lady. If you haven't listened to Part 1 of this conversation or any of her other

podcast with me, I highly suggest checking them out. She's an ornamental entomologist specializing

in integrated pest management. Suzanne has been involved in the green industry for more than

25 years with a primary

focus on biological control and using pesticides properly. She is a graduate of the University of

Florida with degrees in both entomology and environmental horticulture. Suzanne has been on the

podcast multiple times and please do go back and listen to some of our other podcasts if you haven't already.

Her website is buglady consulting.com where you can find links to other webinars, podcasts,

and information, as well as how to contact her for direct consulting. Now on to the show.

So a couple of things that you've taught me, again correct me if I misspeak, around oils.

And the reason that you like suth oil, which is mineral oil based, also Monterey Garden horticultural oil,

is because it has less REI requirements.

It biodegrades faster and it's something that you can spray pretty easily and has a lot of data showing its effectiveness.

There is a new product called EpiShield. We're working with them right now to try and get into smaller container sizes so that it can be available

to a wider range of growers. And that product has no REI and smells phenomenal and it's botanical

based. And there's a lot of data to support it. But that's one of the advantages of these

oils is that they work as

...