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Weird Studies

Episode 160: The Way of All Flesh: On John Carpenter's 'The Thing'

Weird Studies

Phil Ford and J. F. Martel

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.8688 Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2023

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

As a horror movie, John Carpenter's The Thing seems to have it all: amazing practical effects, body horror, psychological drama, Kurt Russell ... Indeed, there is only one element this movie lacks, and that is anything at all corresponding to the titular villain. There is no thing in The Thing! What we have instead is a process, a pattern, a way for which the term "thing" is as good as any other. (What is a thing anyway?) In this episode, Phil and JF, having decided that Carpenter's film qualifies as a Christmas movie because there is snow (and a dog) in it, explore the metaphysical implications of a cult classic. Support us on Patreon. Buy the Weird Studies sountrack, volumes 1 and 2, on Pierre-Yves Martel's Bandcamp page. Listen to Meredith Michael and Gabriel Lubell's podcast, Cosmophonia. Visit the Weird Studies Bookshop Find us on Discord Get the T-shirt design from Cotton Bureau! REFERENCES John Carpenter, The Thing Weird Studies, Episode 100 on Carpenter Films Weird Studies, Episode 157 on Videodrome Ridley Scott, Blade Runner Ridley Scott Alien Thomas Aquinas, On Being and Essence Haecceity Ernest Fenollosa, The Chinese Written Characters as a Medium for Poetry Weird Studies, Episode 89 on ‘Mumbo Jumbo’ Weird Studies, Episode 127 on ‘The Impossibility of Automating Ambiguity’ Wikipedia, “Quiddity” Vilhelm Hammershøi, Danish painter Jez Conolly, The Thing Arthur Schopenhauer, The World as Will and Representation Dylan Trigg, The Thing a Phenomenology of Horror Plato, The Timaeus Lucretius, “On the Nature of Things” Clive Barker, The Great and Secret Show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Spectrevision Radio

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Welcome to Weird Studies, an arts and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martel.

0:20.0

For more episodes, or to support the podcast,

0:23.3

go to weirdstud J.F. Martel.

0:53.3

Phil and I are very excited to bring you this,

0:55.5

our 160th episode, on John Carpenter's 1982 horror masterpiece The Thing. Before I introduce it,

1:03.1

however, two other things briefly. First, an announcement. With the release of this episode,

1:08.8

Weird Studies enters a one-month holiday hiatus.

1:12.1

Phil and I have had a very busy fall and are in much need of a break, if only to catch up on a

1:16.8

bunch of other work. You can expect our usual Christmas bonus to drop somewhere in there.

1:21.9

This will be a recent audio extra originally released for Patreon members, all of whom, of course,

1:27.3

deserve our eternal

1:28.1

gratitude.

1:28.9

If you're not yet a patron, please consider supporting us by going to patreon.com for us slash

1:33.2

Word Studies.

1:34.7

The next new flagship show will drop on January 24th, 2024.

1:39.8

A heartfelt thanks to everyone who's accompanied us on our weird peregrinations these last 12 months.

1:45.1

We look forward to continuing the journey in the new year.

1:49.0

The other thing, before talking about the thing, is this thing I've been working on with

1:54.4

my brother Pierre-Ive Martel. That name will be familiar to regular listeners as Pierre

1:59.0

Yves writes and performs all of the original music on

2:01.7

our show. In another life, Pierre Rive and I played in many a Prague or folk or Prague folk band together.

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