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Weird Studies

Episode 166: Make Believe: On the Power of Pretentiousness

Weird Studies

Phil Ford and J. F. Martel

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.8688 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

In culture and the arts, labeling something you don't like (or don't understand) "pretentious" is the easy way out. It's a conversation killer, implying that any dialogue is pointless, and those who disagree are merely duped by what you've cleverly discerned as a charade. It's akin to cynically revealing that a magic show is all smoke and mirrors—as if creative vision doesn't necessitate a leap of faith. In this episode, Phil and JF explore the nuances of pretentiousness, distinguishing between its fruitful and hollow forms. They argue that the real gamble, and inherent value, of daring to pretend lies in recognizing that imagination is an active contributor to, rather than a detractor from, reality. Pierre-Yves Martel's EPHEMERA project It isn't too late to join JF's upcoming course on the films of Stanley Kubrick, which goes until the end of April, 2024. Support us on Patreon. Buy the Weird Studies soundtrack, volumes 1 and 2, on Pierre-Yves Martel's Bandcamp page. Listen to Meredith Michael and Gabriel Lubell's podcast, Cosmophonia. Visit the Weird Studies Bookshop Find us on Discord Get the T-shirt design from Cotton Bureau! REFERENCES Brian Eno, A Year with Swollen Appendices Dan Fox, Pretentiousness: Why it Matters Ramsay Dukes, How to See Fairies Johan Huizinga, Homo Ludens Gilles Deleuze, Difference and Repetition Weird Studies, Episode 49 on Nietzsche’s idea of “untimely” Sokal Affair, scholarly hoax Weird Studies, Episode 75 on ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ Stanley Kubrick, “Notes on Film” Friedrich Nietzsche, On the Uses and Abuses of History Vladimir Nabokov, Think, Write, Speak Mary Shelley, “Introduction to Frankenstein” Matt Cardin, A Course in Demonic Creativity Playboy interview with Stanley Kubrick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Spectrevision Radio

0:02.0

Welcome to Weird Studies, an arts and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martel.

0:20.0

For more episodes, or to support the podcast,

0:23.3

go to weirdstudies.com. Welcome to Weird Studies. This is JF.

0:51.3

When you co-host a podcast with the tagline,

0:55.8

Art and Philosophy, at the limits of the thinkable, you probably shouldn't be surprised when

1:00.8

someone calls you pretentious. Fortunately, I'd built up some immunity to that particular

1:06.2

complaint long before Phil and I launched Weird Studies. It was in the tenth grade that the P-word was

1:12.1

first hurled at me. It hurt because it was true. Today, however, when I read a review describing

1:18.7

our show as somewhat pretentious, it doesn't hurt at all, again, because it's true. I guess I've come

1:26.2

to understand that nothing new happens in culture without a modicum of

1:30.0

pretension, by which I mean that the emergence of good creative work necessarily hinges on

1:35.7

someone, somewhere, deciding to become what they aren't, deciding to pretend, in hopes of

1:41.9

transplanting something from the realm of the merely possible to that

1:45.9

of the actual, with no guarantee, of course, that it will survive the procedure.

1:51.9

Take, for instance, Pierre Riv Martel's latest musical project, ephemera, a 10-hour-long,

1:57.7

quote, experiment in sonic immersion and long-form music,

2:02.5

combining field and archival recordings with modular synthesis and acoustic instruments.

2:07.9

This episode features an excerpt from the ninth piece in Pierre-Rive's series,

2:13.2

a rendition of a Bach Cereband played on the harmonium.

2:17.5

How's that for pretentious?

2:19.6

As you may know, Pierre Rive is our resident composer and performer.

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