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At Last She Said It

Episode 168: Revisiting What Women Don't Get in our Church

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5900 Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2023

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Some questions need to be revisited often so we don’t lose sight of the fact that no satisfactory answer has been given. In Episode 91, Cynthia asked, “If history shows that patriarchy is bad for women, and data shows that girls and women fare better when they can see themselves at every level of leadership in our churches, schools, and societies…why do LDS women and men continue to cling to old ideas that deny history and data?” Unfortunately, her question stands, as little if any progress has been made. In Episode 168 we preface a rerun of this previous conversation with a few of the thoughts we have about it now.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I need a crystal ball. I want to look into it and see what the tipping point will be.

0:10.0

There will be one. There will be one, but I don't think you and I know what that will be.

0:15.0

No, I'm not going to live to see it.

0:17.0

I don't think my daughter's going to live to see it.

0:19.0

I have hope for my granddaughters, but...

0:21.0

I don't have granddaughters in the church so I guess at that point

0:25.1

it won't matter and that makes me sad just because our richness our richness

0:30.9

our richness we could be is so much greater than what we are sometimes

0:36.4

and that's painful to me.

0:39.8

Hi, I'm Susan Hinckley.

0:45.0

And I am Cynthia Wynward.

0:47.0

And this is at last she said it.

0:49.0

We are women of faith discussing complicated things.

0:52.0

The title of today's episode is,

0:53.8

revisiting what women don't get in our church.

0:58.8

This episode needs to be revisited, Cynthia,

1:01.3

so the holidays couldn't become at a more perfect time that we are

1:04.8

deciding to do a rerun and this is the one that we're gonna do I'm excited for it

1:10.8

I re-listened to be ready to record this and I said this is on the very

1:15.5

short list of the best things that I've ever been involved in putting in the world.

1:19.2

So that's how much I'd love your essay in this.

1:22.6

Wow, you like it that much, huh?

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