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Caught

Episode 2: 'They Look at Me Like a Menace'

Caught

WNYC Studios

Politics, Society & Culture, Documentary, News, True Crime

4.9747 Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2018

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In our first episode, we met Z. He's locked up because he and a group of friends robbed someone with a gun. But now that he's inside, his biggest problem is his temper. Z is a kid who's had mental health challenges since he was small, and when he's gotten the support he needs, he has thrived. Inside lock up, that support is complicated. It comes with a label. And like many kids in the system, he gets help mostly when he "turns up," which is just the kind of behavior that threatens his chance to go home.  Caught is supported, in part, by the Anne Levy Fund, Margaret Neubart Foundation, the John and Gwen Smart Family Foundation, and the Economic Hardship Reporting Project.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Listener supported W.NYC. Studios.

0:07.0

Got the punching back right here.

0:10.0

Yeah, it got that right there.

0:12.0

That's how I get rid of my anger.

0:14.0

That's Z.

0:15.0

We met him in episode one inside a juvenile detention center.

0:18.0

I just punched that whole time.

0:20.0

Yeah, that's how I get rid of it.

0:23.6

He's still inside, and he's frustrated.

0:26.6

It'd be hard for any teenager to be stuck in one of the most controlled environments imaginable.

0:32.6

I mean, think about it.

0:34.6

For most of us, high school alone felt stifling and draconian, never mind a detention

0:40.3

center where every single broken rule comes with a consequence.

0:44.3

It kind of gets me mad a little bit, knowing that people got mad authority over me.

0:49.3

He's inside because he and some friends robbed a guy with a gun.

0:53.3

But for Z, there's another layer to this.

0:56.1

He's really got a problem with his temper.

0:58.6

And it's a big deal.

1:00.2

Every time he gets mad, or as he puts it, turns up.

1:03.4

It threatens his ability to get out.

1:05.8

And he's turned up a lot.

1:07.9

I'm Kairite.

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