Episode 2 - “Through the Valley”

HBO's The Last of Us Podcast

HBO Max Podcasts

Tv & Film

4.9 • 3.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Host Troy Baker and The Last of Us showrunners Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann take a deep breath and get into the shocking events of Episode 2. This spoiler-filled conversation involves how they approached bringing one of the most controversial moments of the game to television, if they ever considered changing Joel’s fate, behind-the-scenes stories from the Jackson battle, and whether we’ve seen the last of Joel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Now it's funny, I have waited to solve...
0:07.0	Oh, just shut the fuck up and do it already.
0:10.0	You...
0:12.0	Stupid old man.
0:22.3	You don't get to rush this.
0:28.1	Welcome back to the official podcast for the HBO original series The Last of Us.
0:36.5	I'm Troy Baker and I played Joel in the Last
0:39.3	of us video games. Joining me as always are the showrunners of the HBO series Craig Mazin.
0:44.4	Good to see you. And Neil Druckman. Hi, Troy. Today, we are unpacking episode two of the second
0:51.7	season and listeners, here is your warning.
0:55.2	You will want to have watched this episode in its entirety before you hear this conversation.
1:00.8	Trust me, there are many, many spoilers ahead.
1:04.3	This episode called Through the Valley was written by You Craig and it was directed by Mark Milad.
1:11.8	A lot happens in this episode.
1:14.2	Yeah.
1:17.3	Including what would be one of the most controversial and biggest bombshells of this series,
1:22.6	the death of a beloved character, Joel.
1:25.1	Wait, what?
1:26.5	Shock. People who've played the game, they. Wait, what? Shock.
1:28.4	People who've played the game, they've been bracing for this.
1:31.4	They've been one step ahead of a lot of people
1:33.4	who haven't been familiar with this story.
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