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Death of an Artist

Episode 2: What the Wall Label Doesn’t Tell You

Death of an Artist

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Arts, True Crime

4.6877 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Following Ana’s death, police take Carl in for questioning. He has scratches on his face. His story is inconsistent, yet he maintains his innocence. In this episode, we rewind and take a look back at Carl’s history and his relationship with Ana and try to understand what led to that night.

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0:00.0

Do Nice Guys Really Finish Last. I'm Tim Harford, host of the Cautionary Tales

0:07.5

podcast and I'm exploring that very question. Join me for my new miniseries on the art of fairness. From New York to Tahiti will examine

0:16.3

villains undone by their villainy, monstrous self-devouring egos and accounts of the extraordinary

0:22.2

power of decency.

0:23.6

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Pushkin

0:40.0

Something else. This show contains adult language and occasional descriptions of violence.

0:52.0

Please keep that in mind when choosing when and where to listen.

0:57.2

Previously on death of an artist.

1:00.0

She was very magnetic, but she was also very, very argumentative.

1:05.0

And so often people would end up in a fight with her.

1:09.0

They get into arguments.

1:10.0

Yeah, they would.

1:11.0

Carl, Carl can be really quite nice and wonderful, except when he drinks too much, he becomes Dr.

1:18.6

Jepler.

1:19.6

Where's the emergency?

1:20.6

Yeah, yes, my wife has committed suicide. We had a quarrel about the fact that I was more

1:28.2

exposed to the public than she wasn't. She went to the bedroom and I went after her and she to one of the holy sites of the art world, Diya Beacon. Dia is a sprawling museum housed in an old Nabisco factory in New York's Hudson River Valley.

1:58.0

It holds one of the most impressive collections of minimal and conceptual art in the world. The work is always perfectly

2:06.5

installed. The vibe is one of purity. More than anywhere else in the country, D.S. stands for the belief that art speaks for itself,

2:16.0

that it doesn't need institutional interpretation.

2:20.0

There are no wall labels, no bells and whistles designed to lure people in.

2:24.8

It's a place for true believers, for artists, and for hardcore art lovers like myself to go and

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