Episode 20: The Trash Stratum - Part 1

Weird Studies

Phil Ford and J. F. Martel

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.8 • 688 Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2018

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Is the Holy Grail a crushed beer can in the gutter? JF and Phil consider the implications of Philip K. Dick's line, "the symbols of the divine initially show up at the trash stratum." Gnosticism, Aleister Crowley's Thoth tarot, Thomas Ligotti's "The Order of Illusion," Jack Smith's glorification of moldy glamour, saints' relics that look like beef jerky -- all this and more in the first of a two-part conversation. REFERENCES Aleister Crowley, The Book of Thoth Phil Ford, "What Good News Do You Bring?" Philip K. Dick, The Exegesis Philip K. Dick, VALIS Stanislav Lem, Microworlds Jonathan Haidt, The Righteous Mind Robertson Davies, The Rebel Angels Thomas Ligotti, Noctuary Friedrich Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy Frank Darabont (dir.), The Shawshank Redemption Weird Studies podcast, On Tarkovsky's 'Stalker' Part 1 and Part 2 Richard Wagner, Parsifal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Specter Vision Radio.
0:03.3	Welcome to Weird Studies, an art and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martell.
0:21.8	For more episodes and to support the podcast, go to Weird Studies.com. The idea for today's episode comes from a line from Philip K. Dick's exegesis, where he writes,
0:56.4	The Symbols of the Divine first reveal themselves at the trash stratum.
1:01.0	And we've touched on this idea.
1:02.0	Actually, I hate to be an asshole, but it's not from the exegesis.
1:06.0	It's from Valus.
1:07.9	It's not from the exegesis?
1:10.0	Oh, well, okay.
1:11.3	I'm being that guy who's like, well, actually, what an asshole.
1:17.3	Like castrip with Kyrgyzgaard.
1:22.2	Exactly.
1:22.9	That is exactly what I was thinking.
1:26.7	We're just going to leave our listeners in the dark on that one.
1:30.8	Anyway, that hardly seems worth it to have interrupted your flow.
1:37.0	Actually, there's a story.
1:38.3	I kind of got into this.
1:39.8	I was looking through the exegesis.
1:41.6	There's actually something very cool that you can do.
1:43.3	You can go to Amazon if you have an account and use the search within this book function. I guess if you have
1:48.9	the e-book version of the exegesis, it would work the same way. But if you do, just plug in the word
1:54.8	trash and look at all of the occurrences of trash or trash stratum. This idea of trash develops throughout the,
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