Hi, I'm Cynthia Winward.

And I'm Susan Hinkley.

And this is at last she said it.

We are women of faith discussing complicated things.

And the title of today's episode is The Ultimate Big Deal Part 4, Spiritual Separators. We're going here again, Susan.

Another temple episode, Cynthia. It takes us a few seasons in between to recover from the last one,

and then we do another one. That's because it's the ultimate big deal, and I always get sweaty

in my armpits when we talk about the ultimate big deal. Exactly. I think we all do. I think we all do. I just want to remind people who maybe are new to our podcast that the reason that's why we call it the ultimate big deal is that's kind of our franchise whenever we have Temple episodes. So this is part four in that, not that we've had three previous episodes like

last week, the week before, but over the last five years, we've touched on this topic specifically

in three other episodes. And those episodes are episode 12, 51, 100, and then there was a bonus kind of 101.

And the reason that we're doing this is because as a result of a conversation that you and I had,

I wrote a say more piece a couple of weeks ago called Spiritual Separators.

So that's where the tagline on today's title comes from.

And of course,

we'll link to all of our sources and resources today in the show notes. So including that piece,

if people haven't had a chance to see it. I want to start this conversation with an

acknowledgement that we're all having different experiences. And if you love the temple and you

find peace and joy and spiritual nourishment and everything that you're looking for there,

we do not want to do one single thing to take away from that. We're not trying to change your

mind or change your experience or argue with it or, you know, anything else.

We just in these episodes want to give space for women who are having different temple

experiences.

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