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The First Degree

Episode 323: TFD Investigates: Ashley Ellerin Updates

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.5 • 10K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

23 years after fashion student Ashley Ellerin's life was senselessly taken, new questions emerge that call into question whether the suspect could have been stopped before more lives were lost. Was a lie told by actor Ashton Kutcher the reason Michael Garguilo remained free to kill again? Was incompetence at the hands of Cook County Illinois law enforcement to blame? Or were there TWO missed opportunities to stop this monster? In today's special investigative episode, Jac and Alexis pour over all the details, and most importantly, punctuate the real issue at the heart of the matter, a society apathetic to violence against women.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's a degree.

0:02.0

First degree. First degree. First degree. First degree. First degree. First degree.

0:06.0

The first degree.

0:08.0

See it on the news.

0:10.0

See it on the table. You see it on Facebook.

0:13.0

These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.

0:16.0

Welcome to the first degree, the true crime podcast that you might end up on.

0:26.4

My name is Jack Fannick. I'm sitting here with the Lexis link letter. She's wearing

0:30.1

her Foo Fighters zip up yet again.

0:32.6

Hey, Dave Groll's off the hook in my book.

0:35.6

Nobody's mentioned him for about at least a month and a half.

0:38.1

When you put it in comparison to...

0:40.5

What he did isn't that bad.

0:42.0

I mean, it's morally corrupt and it's horrible for his family.

0:49.2

That thing said I did buy it before the controversy A. B, he's wasn't at Diddy Parties as did he

0:54.3

part is

0:55.3

was wasn't at did he parties as far as I've heard so

0:56.6

but what if he had insider scoop and he knew that this was all going to drop so

0:59.8

he dropped his cheating baby situation right before because he knew it would get crushed under the rug.

1:06.1

I put nothing past the Hollywood elite.

1:09.2

Nothing at all.

1:10.5

Well speaking of today's episode is a little bit different of an episode for us.

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