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The First Degree

Episode 337: Gilbert Gutjahr, Part 2

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.510K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In episode 337 Jac and Alexis conclude with part 2 of the Gilbert Gutjahr case. While the case is technically adjudicated, questions may always loom about the driving force behind the murder itself. And information revealed during the court proceedings leads to startling revelations. This episode explores so much more than a shocking crime, they delve into family dynamics, how they shape who we become, and how to escape if needed.

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The first degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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The first degree.

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You see it on the news.

0:10.0

You see it on the paper.

0:11.0

You see it on Facebook.

0:13.0

These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.

0:16.0

Yeah, it's a whole thing.

0:22.9

Like, I feel like it's just like she almost kind of groomed him.

0:28.6

Yeah, Karen, yep, groomed my younger brother.

0:32.3

I mean, she wanted, it was like she wanted all of us kids to, like, have a, you know, like, it was like an obsession

0:41.2

with her or something, you know, like to see about her.

0:43.8

I was very much so the one that was not.

0:46.5

And that was why I was like kind of the black sheep of the family, you know.

0:50.8

So, yeah.

0:52.9

And unfortunately, like my poor brother, you know, and, like, I mean,

0:57.5

I feel bad, but it's like, I mean, I know he made the choices he made, but it's like I feel like

1:04.0

he was groomed at a young age, though, at the same time.

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