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The First Degree

Episode 344: Janice Lillie

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.510K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

On the morning of November 12th of 1991, 41-year-old Janice Aschraft Lillie left her volunteer work at Belle Chasse High School to go to her office in Gretna, Louisiana. Janice’s husband, 41-year-old Norman Lillie, needs her help collecting back rent from their tenants. The couple co-manage and co-own several apartments in the Greater New Orleans metropolitan area. Around 10:15 a.m., Janice arrives at the office. Two hours later, Janice’s body is discovered lying behind her desk. Someone stabbed her more than ten times and left her to die. For years, Gretna police struggled to investigate Janice’s homicide. Despite interviewing more than 180 people, they had little to go on. Then, in 1995, the murder weapon was discovered and several arrests were made in relation to Janice’s case. However, members of Janice’s family think the individuals arrested, indicted, and sentenced for Janice’s murder weren’t even involved. In episode 344, Jac and Alexis detail the strange events and evidence surrounding Janice’s killing, including her then-husband’s suspicious affair with a 25-year-old tenant.

Transcript

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The first degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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First degree.

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The first degree.

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You see it on the news.

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You see it on the paper.

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You see it on Facebook.

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These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.

0:16.0

And all of a sudden, I get this weird feeling like something's wrong, and I'm like, what's wrong?

0:28.5

And she said, it's your mom.

0:30.7

And I said, what do you mean?

0:33.6

It's my mom.

0:35.0

And everything after that is a blur.

0:39.3

There's a lot of things about the case that doesn't make sense.

0:43.0

You can't make it make sense.

0:44.8

There's a lot of facts that when you put it together,

0:49.0

like something's really wrong here.

0:51.1

I remember bits and pieces.

0:52.8

Like I remember Norman being at the church and him being at the

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