Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Dori Sheffreier.

And I'm Elise Hugh and we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

It's true. Welcome to the show.

Welcome back, everybody. And today we are very excited because we have one of our quarterly

recurring. Our one quarterly recurring guests. The makeup artist to the stars, Rachel Goodwin,

is back on with us today. And we also had some

feedback from one of our longtime listeners and Patreon supporters about how, you know, during these

very whack, tumultuous, dark times, she kind of wanted like an escape and to think about just indulgences.

And so we thought that, you know, we always do a check-in before we get into the guest.

We thought that maybe during this check-in that we could talk about some of our favorite things

right now that are helping us get through the tough times. And they don't have to be

products. They don't have to be things that cost a lot of money, but they can be. So I'm just

curious, Dor, what are you doing? What are some of your favorite treats or indulgences that you're

taking advantage of to just kind of help get through.

I've been having a bowl of Trader Joe's vanilla ice cream with whipped cream every night.

Ooh, with whipped cream.

With whipped cream. The whipped cream is crucial, I think.

I feel, yes, that makes it a treat, you know, the extra. Exactly. Sometimes I cut up some strawberries if I'm feeling like ambitious and put them in.

And I have occasionally been like, I should get some hot fudge, like really turn this into a Sunday.

Yeah.

But I haven't done that yet.

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