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Literature and History

Episode 35: The Great Thundercrap (Aristophanes' The Clouds)

Literature and History

Doug Metzger

Literature, Books, History, Classics, Arts

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🗓️ 7 February 2017

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Aristophanes’ The Clouds is a dazzling satire on Athenian philosophy, showing a very different Socrates than Plato’s.

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0:00.0

Literature and history dot come. Oh, Hello and welcome to literature and history. Episode 35, the Great Thundercrap. In this episode,

0:42.0

we're going to talk about a play called The Clouds, written by the

0:46.1

comedic ancient Greek playwright Aristophanes and first produced in the city of

0:51.4

Athens in 423 b.C.

0:56.1

We have this tendency when we think about ancient Greece.

0:59.8

I think maybe it's because a lot of us encounter ancient Greece for the first time in the works of Plato or in the myths.

1:07.0

And it all seems rather serious.

1:10.0

Those bygone Greeks, we think, wrote epic legends about slaying monsters, Medusas and Minatores and Hydras.

1:19.0

They wrote about wars between nations and they delved into the fine points of ethical philosophy.

1:27.0

We picture them there standing amidst fluted columns and engaging in sober philosophical disputations in between meetings of the Assembly.

1:36.6

They can seem, if we just read, Plato and Sophocles maybe, as composed and dignified as the sculptures they chiseled out of marble 2,500 years ago.

1:49.6

We might have this image of particularly classical Athens as a time and place of dignified

1:55.8

intellectualism, of discipline, of moderation and self-control. We might have this image of Athens if we didn't have a small

2:06.5

handful of texts, the most important among them being the plays of Aristophanes.

2:12.3

And as the great them being the plays of Aristophanes.

2:13.9

And as the great German poet Heinrich Heinas said, there is a God and his name is Aristophanes. This is probably the most famous thing ever said about Aristophanes.

2:29.3

In some ways it's an odd statement about the ancient world's most famous funny man.

2:35.9

Aristophanes' plays are full of farts and poop jokes, bodily orifices, and ridiculous lechery,

2:47.0

x-rated quips about sex and undisguised authorial self-promotion and seen after scene of characters behaving with undignified stupidity and gross selfishness.

2:56.6

If we were looking for someone from ancient Greece to award with the hyperbole of God, Homer seems like the obvious choice.

3:06.0

So why would a writer as accomplished as Heinrich Heina

3:09.7

select this ancient jokester as the deity of all writers.

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