The So, I'm really excited to be joined on bad faith podcast today by Professor Greve Chawa.

He is an associate professor of political economy

at the Africa Institute.

Welcome, Professor.

Thanks for having me, Brianna.

It's an incredible honor to be here.

I mean, the honor is really mine.

I have been wanting to cover the

protest in Kenya for a few days now and was really excited to see not just some of

your other

bits of commentary on the internet,

but that you've had a longer tale commentary

and substantive research on the question

of how international monetary organizations, the World Bank Bank and the IMF have contributed to the

underlying financial crises that really provoked the protest that we saw emerge

last week.

So I want to start by just laying the foundation

for those folks who haven't been following

what's been happening in Kenya.

Can you explain what happened in the context of the protests and then we'll move into why it happened.

As a Zambian, I'm a bit hesitant to speak on behalf of my Kenyan sisters and brothers, but I'm going to try.

So what happened?

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