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Episode 39: COP27 - just Kick Big Polluters Out

EU Watchdog Radio

Corporate Europe Observatory and Counter Balance

News, Politics

51 Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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0:00.0

The climate criminal is the one who is also pretending to be the mesire of the people,

0:08.0

to be the one providing solutions to the same problems that they are causing.

0:14.0

They felt comfortable enough to bring one of the most polluting industries in the world into the climate talks and give them a platform like, surely it just shows how far away we are and getting where we need to be and how close that relationship is. You're listening to EU Watchdog Radio.

0:45.3

Hi, welcome. I'm Pasco Savido, researcher and campaigner at Corporate Europe Observatory,

0:51.1

or CEO. Exceptionally, I'm going to be the host of today's episode of EU Watchdog Radio, where I'm

0:57.9

going to be talking to Adironka Eager from corporate accountability and public participation

1:02.4

Africa, or Kappa, and who is at the moment at COP27 in Egypt.

1:08.2

CEO and Kappa are both part of the campaign, kick big polluters out.

1:12.8

And we're going to be talking about it, how it is to be at the cop, and our latest research

1:17.4

into the presence of fossil fuel lobbyists in the negotiations. A quick hint, it's not good.

1:23.8

Do stick around. So Adironka, it's really great to have you on our podcast.

1:29.0

Hi, Pascal.

1:29.7

It's really strange not to be there with you.

1:31.6

This is like the first year for a long time that I myself have not been at the COP,

1:36.2

but from what I'm seeing, things are incapable of hands with yourselves and others.

1:40.9

And we saw last week, I mean, there seemed to be a lot of attention given to how many

1:46.5

fossil fuel lobbyists at the COP. So we had a piece of research with corporate accountability,

1:51.8

CEO and Global Witness, which showed that there were more than 600 lobbyists, fossil fuel lobbyists

1:57.8

at COP 27, roaming the halls, influencing negotiations. That's more the fossil fuel lobbyists at COP 27 roaming the halls, influencing negotiations. That's more,

2:04.3

the fossil fuel delegation is more than any single African country. And this COP 27 is supposed

2:10.0

to be an African COP. Like what's, I mean, from your perspective, like, what's that mean for

2:15.2

the talks? What's that mean for what's going on on the ground? Thank you so much, Pascal. Number one, I would say it also feels really strange,

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