Episode 4: The Genius Problem
Death of an Artist
Pushkin Industries
4.6 • 877 Ratings
🗓️ 7 October 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Carl stands trial for the murder of Ana Mendieta. His defense ruthlessly attacks Ana, using her artwork against her, and rests heavily on his prestige in the art world. Helen reveals her personal connection to Carl Andre and his work, and how it changed her career.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin |
| 0:10.0 | Some things. |
| 0:12.0 | Some of violence. |
| 0:22.0 | Please keep that in mind when choosing when and occasional descriptions of violence. |
| 0:22.6 | Please keep that in mind when choosing when and where to listen. |
| 0:27.6 | Previously, on death of an artist. |
| 0:31.6 | She was making photocopies and she wanted to use that for her divorce on grounds of infidelity. |
| 0:38.6 | I find that my roots are Cuban. The branches might be American but the trunk of the tree is Cuban or the roots, you know? |
| 0:47.0 | She was not a santera, she was not dressed in white. |
| 0:50.0 | There is a very big difference between a practitioner of Santeria and somebody who studies or uses it |
| 0:57.9 | as a way of working with the culture. |
| 1:12.0 | I want to take you back to 1980s Manhattan. In those days you could actually smoke in the |
| 1:14.8 | hallways of the courtroom and many a jury weight took place in the hallways with |
| 1:20.7 | people smoking cigarettes and playing cards and things like that. It was |
| 1:25.9 | gritty. That's Ron Kubi, a long time New York City defense lawyer. |
| 1:31.9 | He's going to be our tour guide through the legal |
| 1:34.1 | dynamics of Carl's trial. The city had suffered a recession. Crime was |
| 1:42.3 | rampant. There had been a spate of high-profile |
| 1:45.1 | horrors. I remember taking the subway to school and reading the ominous headlines |
| 1:49.8 | in the post or the Daily News. Fear was in the air and much of it played on white people's |
| 1:55.9 | deep-seated racism that equated crime with people of color. |
| 2:00.4 | The judges were almost |
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