there, this chilling effect.

What were law firms and other legal experts concerned about?

So this firm was the basically lead counsel for the 2016 campaign for Hillary Clinton.

They helped fund the dossier that Trump, you know, obviously became obsessed with and hated

and thought it was unfairly tarnishing his ties to Russia.

The same law firm in 2020 was at the forefront of many of the post-2020 election efforts to overturn the election.

They fought Trump in court throughout the country,

and they beat him time and time again with a lawyer named Mark Elias. Mark Elias has since left

the firm, and subsequently, a partner at the firm who had been involved with some of the stuff

around the campaign and the dossier and Trump's

ties to Russia was indicted and went to trial and was acquitted.

So there has been a judicial process on Perkins Cooey before.

One of their partners was indicted.

He went to trial. He was acquitted. Trump tried to sue Perkins Cooey before. One of their partners was indicted. He went to trial. He was acquitted.

Trump tried to sue Perkins Cooey. That lawsuit fell flat. But what happens is that last Thursday, he signs this executive order that essentially cripples the firm. It basically says that this firm that has a big office in Washington cannot interact with

the federal government, essentially stops them from interacting with the federal government.

And if you're a client of Perkins Cooey and your lawyer cannot interact with the government

and you have contracts with the government in business before the government, it is highly detrimental.

And that is what Perkins Cooey's lawyers, they have their own law firm now representing them.

Williams and Connolly says yesterday, they said that this is almost, this is an existential threat

to this firm based on the simple fact that Donald Trump, nearly 10 years after Perkins Cooey, you know,

committed what he thinks is his first sin against him, is suffering under because of this executive

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