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🗓️ 22 April 2025
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0:00.0 | Yeah, I think it's right to connect the dots between assault on, you know, many different |
0:04.3 | independent institutions, which is a theme that has run through the not quite hundred days |
0:09.1 | of this second Trump term. And I would point out that as far as Chairman Powell goes, |
0:13.9 | you know, you noted that he was appointed by Donald Trump in his first term. |
0:17.5 | Donald Trump also repeatedly threatened to fire Powell in his first term. In fact, |
0:23.3 | we did reporting for our book The Divider, and it was clear that some senior officials at the Fed |
0:28.7 | literally could not go to sleep for months worrying about the next day being the day, |
0:34.1 | that there would be a constitutional crisis, an impasse between the independent Federal Reserve |
0:39.7 | and the White House. It didn't come to pass in part because it was a very different regime |
0:44.8 | at that time. And Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin essentially spent almost full time managing |
0:51.3 | Trump to avoid that kind of catastrophe. By the way, Powell was prepared to spend, |
0:57.2 | quote, every last nickel of his own money, and he has millions and millions of dollars in order to |
1:03.0 | go to court to stop Donald Trump from eroding the independence of the American Central Bank, |
1:08.9 | which many Wall Street investors, of course, believe is one of the |
1:11.9 | pillars of our economy. So if Trump takes the next step, I would expect Powell to consider |
1:18.1 | very seriously suing him. I would expect there to be a major crisis that obviously will add |
1:23.5 | further instability into our markets and a level of uncertainty at the core of the American |
1:29.1 | financial system that I think is unlike anything we've ever seen. If there is that kind of |
1:33.9 | outright confrontation between the chairman of the Federal Reserve and the president of the |
1:38.7 | United States. Are they spending their nights awake over this? How about this Wall Street |
1:43.9 | Journal headline that I just saw tonight? |
1:46.2 | Dow headed for the worst April since 1932 as investors send a no-confidence signal. |
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